In this episode, Tim Perkins sits down with Alfie Kohn and chats about the dangers of praise and rewards. Alfie expresses some strident opinions that are sure to stoke some thoughts for you, whether you're an educator, corporate leader or parent. 

You can find out more about Alfie Kohn, his books and thinking at: https://www.alfiekohn.org

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