In this episode, Tim Perkins chats with Finnish educator, writer and scholar, Pasi Sahlberg. Pasi is Professor of Education Policy and Deputy Director of the Gonski Institute at the University of New South Wales in Sydney, Australia, and recently he and Tim spent a week travelling up the East Coast of NSW visiting schools. 

Tim caught up with Pasi at his home in Sydney to chat about education. 

Pasi's new book, Let the Children Play is available now. 

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